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00:00:00About japan.
00:00:01It's already on the topic.
00:00:02>> Bill: "The o'reilly factor" is on.
00:00:03Tonight: >> Bill: The death toll in japan now expected to reach more than 10,000 and it could get far worse if the nuclear power plants melt down.
00:00:21We'll have the very latest from the earthquake scene and report extensively on the nuclear issue.
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00:01:23>> Bill: Hi, I'm bill o'reilly.
00:01:24Thanks for watching us tonight.
00:01:26High drama in japan.
00:01:27That is the subject of this evening's talking points memo.
00:01:30Amazing new video coming out of japan tonight showing the devastating tsunami that swept inland as much as three miles destroying everything in its path.
00:01:42This tape was shot above a small town where residents had fled after being warned that the water was coming.
00:01:49The shocked people watched as their homes and possessions were destroyed.
00:01:59[Crying] >> Bill: It is estimated that more than 10,000 people have been killed.
00:02:09And the damage estimate could reach $50 billion.
00:02:15The bank of japan is pouring money into the area to help banks and financial institutions that were destroyed.
00:02:20Millions of japanese are without power tonight, without water, without food.
00:02:25And temperatures are near freezing in the quake area.
00:02:29Almost a half million people are living in shelters as thousands have been evacuated because of the nuclear danger.
00:02:36Now, on that front, four nuclear power plants were damaged by the quake.
00:02:41And one is close to melting down this evening.
00:02:44The world has seen pictures of explosions at that plant.
00:02:47More than 1500 people have been scanned for radiation exposure.
00:02:53Almost 200 have been found to be somewhat contaminated.
00:02:56That number includes 17 american military personnel involved in relief efforts.
00:03:00Authorities say the contamination is low level and can be scrubbed off.
00:03:05The uss ronald reagan, a carrier, has been ordered to leave its position downwind from the nuclear plants.
00:03:10As were other ships from the seventh fleet.
00:03:13So far japan has been spared a nuclear meltdown but the situation remains tenuous and reaction continues to poor -- pour.
00:03:22In.
00:03:22>> Walls are just shifting back and forth, up and down.
00:03:25Cracks.
00:03:26Split goes through the wall.
00:03:27>> Did you think you would survive?
00:03:29>> Oh, yeah.
00:03:29I knew that.t.
00:03:30>> You knew you wouldn't die.
00:03:31>> I'm not dying in japan.
00:03:33>> Some of those who did escape before the wave hit returned today to search for missing relatives.
00:03:42This woman was looking for her brother.
00:03:45But was soon overwhelmed by the scenes around her.
00:03:54[Crying] >> like all americans, i continue to be heart broken by the images of devastation in japan.
00:04:01The american red cross is leading the private efforts to help the quake victims and everyone hopes the death toll will stabilize.
00:04:07Remember, in the asian tsunami of 2004, more than 200,000 people perished.
00:04:13That's the memo.
00:04:14Now for the top story tonight, dealing with the nuke meltdown.
00:04:19The president of project chernobyl which treats people affected by the disaster there.
00:04:28King has covered several nuclear energy here in the united states.
00:04:33No one knows what the japan situation is going to be.
00:04:35Obviously they are trying their hardest not to have that plant meltdown so massive radiation goes into the air.
00:04:40Here in the united states, i understand we have plants like those in trouble in japan.
00:04:47Is that true?
00:04:48>> That is true.
00:04:49Most of the nuclear plants in the united states are in the eastern part of the united states.
00:04:54But there are two plants in california that are in very active seismic zones.
00:05:00Dangerous zones that are only 5 magnitude earthquake.
00:05:06>> That's sanafro and where is the other one.
00:05:10>> Diablo cannon.
00:05:11>> If the the 9 hit, which is what the japanese quake is now, a 9, those plants would be undergoing exactly what the japanese plants are undergoing.
00:05:19>> It's impossible to say.
00:05:21It's also a matter of luck.
00:05:22The industry has prepared for a lot of contingencies.
00:05:26But it is possible that it could happen, absolutely.
00:05:29>> Bill: All right.
00:05:29So you have go two in the quake , that's all, two?
00:05:33>> At least two.
00:05:34I would have to look at the map a lot more closely at least two.
00:05:38>> Bill: The ones on the east coast.
00:05:40They are rare on the east coast but not impossible.
00:05:42>> Not impossible.
00:05:44>> Bill: Are they along the lines of the japanese or are the newer ones more stable to withstand this kind of stuff.
00:05:49>> Oldest nuclear plant in the is indian point here on the hudson river.
00:05:548% Of the nation's population lives within 50 miles of indian point.
00:05:58Indian point is a very old plant there have been problems there before.
00:06:01So, while it's not in a seismic, in an active seismic vons, there nuclear plants.
00:06:07>> Are you confident that they could -- these plants in the could survive a terrorist attack or a calamity of nature that -- like we are seeing in japan?
00:06:18>> Well, terrorists did use the hudson river as a navigational tool on their way to downtown manhattan.
00:06:26>> Bill: If a plane crashed into that plant hudson would it withstand.
00:06:30>> It's more complicated than that the domes are thick and quite fortified there are also spent fuel rod pools on the side.
00:06:37The spent fuel comes out of reactor core and goes into pools that fuel also needs to be kept cool.
00:06:43It's not as volatile as the fuel.
00:06:46>> Bill: It's possible that a terrorist attack or intrusion nature could have somewhat the effect.
00:06:51>> It's certainly not impossible.
00:06:53Something we need to worry about.
00:06:55>> Bill: Doctor, have you been studying the chernobyl victims.
00:06:57We hear these 17 servicemen low level radiation is there any such thing as low level.
00:07:05>> Ininvisible.
00:07:05You breathe it in with contaminated air and water.
00:07:09If we have learned one thing from chernobyl there is a lot more to learn.
00:07:14>> They are deemphasizing, authorities saying no danger to these folks scrubbed it off this, that, and the other thing.
00:07:21You are not buying that.
00:07:21>> I will give them the benefit of the doubt.
00:07:24If I was a service man, I would get a check up with my doctor at home.
00:07:27>> Even that's impossible.
00:07:28Look what happened with 9/11 with breathing in that debris and then it comes 7, 8 years later where they have all kinds of health problems that's what you are seeing at chernobyl it took a long time for the health problems to develop in some people there.
00:07:39>> Absolutely.
00:07:40The other thing to learn is that the radioactive cloud spread according to wind current, according to where the wind precipitation was.
00:07:51It's not like a 20-mile barrier where everything stops it goes where it wants to go.
00:07:55And the radioactive cloud spread over the northern hemisphere after chernobyl.
00:08:01Should a disaster happen in japan, it's not going to be confined to tokyo.
00:08:06>> Bill: If it is a meltdown of chernobyl like proportions which, of course, it isn't yet.
00:08:11We have to tell everybody it has not happened yet so, the authorities saying japan's low level rationation has leaked out.
00:08:19Pretty much everybody in the chernobyl area was affected by this, right?
00:08:22You can't protect yourself against this.
00:08:23>> There were hundreds of people who died from acute radiation exposure and tens of millions low level.
00:08:30The one cancer that showed up years down the line was thyroid cancer.
00:08:37Lots of isotaupes are going to be around for tens of thousands of years.
00:08:42We don't know what the end result is going to be.
00:08:45>> Bill: This radiation thing is insidious.
00:08:47There is really no way to protect yourself from it, right?
00:08:50>> Can you take iodine pills.
00:08:53It will protect yourself in kids not as much in adults.
00:08:57>> Bill: Thank you both for being here.
00:08:58We appreciate it.
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00:11:47>> Bill: In the hume zone segment tonight, stock markets all over the world took huge hits today because of the uncertainty in japan.
00:11:52The expansion of nuclear power plants now in question because the japanese are having trouble with four of their nuke facilities.
00:12:01Joining us from boca grand, florida chief political analyst brit hume.
00:12:05Let's take the nuclear issue first.
00:12:07You just heard our first two experts and you say.
00:12:10>> I would say that the principle political consequence of this horrible calamity that has struck the japanese nation is to retard the nuclear plants and some other countries more depend dent principally germany.
00:12:28They get something like 16% of its power from nuclear.
00:12:31Already you are hearing comments from all over the place in germany that they should go no further with this.
00:12:35That the old reactors are going to need to be -- need -- whose life has been extended need to be looked at.
00:12:42My sense is that the rebirth in nuclear power in this country which has been on hold for almost a quarter of a century because principally at chernobyl but also three mile island although no one, no one has ever found to have been made sick by 3-mile island.
00:12:563-Mile island and this japanese disaster at the nuclear facilities is likely to destroy those plants' effectiveness.
00:13:05More likely to look like three mile island than chernobyl.
00:13:09>> Bill: Isn't it prudent though, look, to be realistic, we are not going to get away from foreign oil unless we get an expansion of nuclear power.
00:13:16The alternative fuels.
00:13:18>> Exactly.
00:13:20>> Bill: Alternative fuels are not going to be ready for decades on a mass level.
00:13:24I think you are right.
00:13:25Now people are going uh-oh.
00:13:29Saying look, diablo canyon, the plant here in new york, all these things are not built to withstand a slament like a 9 on a ricter scale earthquake.
00:13:42People will say well then we don't want them.
00:13:44It's not worth it not worth takingance that.
00:13:46And you say?
00:13:47>> Well, I say that you already have a significant number of people who think we can't tolerate these plants even if they are working because of the difficulty in exposing of the spent fuel.
00:13:59You know, we have the site in nevada which has been so.
00:14:03>> Bill: Where do you put it?
00:14:04>> It's been resisted although it appears from all we know about it to be pretty safe.
00:14:08You have to transport it.
00:14:09There is already recess tabs to nuclear power in the united states.
00:14:12It's likely to be intensified.
00:14:13When they talk about withstanding an earthquake.
00:14:19What do you mean withstand?
00:14:20You mean continue function properly or have some kind of a meltdown that would lead to some massive public health emergency?
00:14:27I don't think we have a public health emergency in japan.
00:14:30What we are going to have is a loss of though the plants which will be a significant blow of the recovery from the japanese unmanageable calamity.
00:14:41>> The one plant may go.
00:14:42They don't have it under control.
00:14:44It may go up.
00:14:44If that happens.
00:14:45>> Well it, may.
00:14:46But, bill, when you say go up.
00:14:49It appears.
00:14:51>> Bill: It might meltdown.
00:14:54>> Know, but a melt down doesn't mean you get great plumes of radioactive material in the atmosphere.
00:15:00Melt down means that the core of the thing has melted down.
00:15:02But that doesn't mean that you are going to have a massive escape of radiation into the atmosphere.
00:15:07>> Bill: Certainly could happen.
00:15:08That's why they have evacuated.
00:15:10>> There is a lot of things that could happen.
00:15:12The worry I have about, this bill, is that there has been a considerable amount of coverage over the past several days about what could happen.
00:15:19There has been, I think, less about what has happened and what is likely to happen.
00:15:24I think the kind of meltdown we are talking about sun likely, not least because you can pump sea water into these plants to keep the meltdown from occurring.
00:15:31Sea water is very corrosive to the plants.
00:15:35That's the draw back of that.
00:15:36But I don't -- and these plants in japan are different and better than the one in chernobyl which caused a major health emergency.
00:15:48>> Bill: Do you think the media is whipping this up because the media has a wested interested in expanding nuclear power is that in play here.
00:15:55>> Well, maybe.
00:15:57Look, the temptation for a journalist writing about a story like this is to reach for the worst case scenarios.
00:16:03They are the most news worthy.
00:16:04But I will say that, you know, there was good reporting in the "new york times" today about this.
00:16:08There was some good reporting in the "wall street journal" about this.
00:16:11So the -- and you are seeing some important pieces of good reporting on this.
00:16:16My hope is that people will read the stories.
00:16:18The headlines have been harrowing.
00:16:21So my sense is that if people read the headlines and think about, this they won't turn their backs on nuclear power.
00:16:26I'm not very optimistic I must say.
00:16:29>> Bill: People like to be scared.
00:16:30That scaring always sells.
00:16:39Bernie goldberg on the continuing npr controversy.
00:16:43Left-wing media pretty much playing down that big story.
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